. as a republican, she was in the minority. look at the trend lines in the united states. in the post world war ii, unions were necessary. the gis came home, they needed jobs. they seem to have a place in society. now, if you look at the trendlines, they are against us. we are against china, south america. a week, the people, are buying that. we are buying things for those countries. just follow the trend line. if you notice the of unemployment reports over the last couple of months, there has been a steady decline in union membership as cities and states have shed public-sector employees across the board. host: what is your bottom line for mike williams? caller: i know mike is trying to drum of union support, but at the end of the day, in my opinion, unionization in the u.s., in the public and private sector, is on the decline. host: mr. williams? guest: several points that i would respond to. first, i will not make any excuses or apologize for the past errors of organized labor. work practices where you have to bring in three people to bring in a light bulb as an example -- i am in construction.